Scorpio man and Libra woman
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I'm a Libra woman and I dated a Scorpio man. The sex was great but that is about it. He had the worst temper that I have ever encountered in my life. I would not recommend this relationship to anyone except someone looking for a one night stand.
He would get mad at the dumbest things and there was no trust whatsoever. Dozens of times I would catch him going through my phone and getting mad because I had been talking to other guys. These guys were also gay and they were my friends.
The man was so emotional that he would get mad at me for things that would remind him of his past relationships that obviously never worked out. Like I mentioned before the only fun part of the relationship was sex, because this is where he seemed to be mostly himself. Any other time he was constantly judging me and jumping to different conclusions. I would like to kick his ass and be dominant to him so he would know what it feels like!
Thanks for the chance to vent - I actually feel better about this relationship after typing this lol
Personally speaking I'm a beautiful Libra woman and I'm so in love with my soulmate Scorpio Man, and frankly I believe he is scared of me.
He knows deep in his heart that we were meant to be together.
Im a young Libra Woman and Im dating a sexy Scorpio man. After the things I've read on this site, and my own experience at this point of my life I can agree that my Scorpio boyfriend is the best lover I've had by far. He is not afraid to give himself freely, body and soul when it comes to sex. However when it comes to communicating he converts into this brick wall with no intention of sharing his thoughts and feelings except when I use my charms.
Instead of being jealous he is quite laidback and doesn't mind a laugh every opportunity he gets. he's always saying how he loves the fact that I always have a smile on my face and the way I can shrug off bad remarks made by people and be like "whatever".
But coming to the part about loyalty, its said Scorpio men are loyal and don't like being played with but my boyfriend has actually been the one to cheat on me in the past, we've come over that and are now obviously together but my trust for him has flown out the window.
I love him, the reason why I've forgiven him and I believe he loves me but something is holding him back from commitment. Some things about my Scorpio boyfriend is clearly opposite to his star sign. How can I show him how much I care and make him realize he can open up to me???
Libra girly here... and man o man what an emotional ride my 9 year relationship was with crazy ass Scorpio fox. He chased me for almost a year before I finally decided to go on a date with him. I fell deeply in love with him because of his personality, sexuality and intense love for me. But the jealousy, mind manipulations, possessiveness, laziness, his depression, our miscommunication was too surmountable in the end we stopped talking completely and he ended sleeping with one of his sisters friends. (how he met me, thru his sister)
I know we were in love and it started when we were young - but it was a toxic love.
I was in love with a Scorpio man. I met him my senior year of high school. We maintained a great relationship throughout college. I was fortunate enough to be worthy enough to meet and know his family. His grandmother, especially and I formed a strong bond.
He was unlike the things I've heard about Scorpio men, he communicated with me, he confided in me, he shared his dreams and aspirations with me and I really loved him. He began acting distant and aloof towards the end of college when the topic of marriage came up initiated by me.
I backed off realizing that we were both too young and not ready to get married so I hung in there for five years post college. By then we were establishing our careers, making decent money, traveling together and enjoying life together. The topic of marriage came up again and he retreated into himself, became distant again and sometimes critical and mean.
By my late twenties I had enough and decided to move on with my life. It was hard but I survived. Scorpio or no Scorpio, men usually know who they want to marry and I simply wasn't the one. However, those initial years through the end of high school and all through college were wonderful.
I am a Scorpio man that knew a Libra woman. To tell the truth it was a wonderful relationship. I felt for the first time in my life that someone completes me and I don't know how I used to live my life without her. Unfortunately everything has gone, not because of me, but because of her....
They said when you fall in love you forgive every mistake that your partner makes. But she didn't know how to do this even though she knows that I didn't mean to hurt her. Anyway really it was a wonderful relationship though that every one says that this kind of relationship between Scorpio and Libra doesn't work. But I tell them it could work and it might be the greatest relationship you might have ever experience.
I am a Libra women extremely in love with a Scorpio man. we've been dating for a year and seven months now. when we first got together we established more of a friendship then a sexual relationship. eventually we did have sex and as mentioned sex with a Scorpio is by far the best sex you will ever have.
We've taken the time to get to know each others families and made strong bonds with certain members. though many people say that this combination is not a long lasting one we believe we can make it work. I've heard a lot about how non communities Scorpios are and I have to differ. my Scorpio is very talkative and playful. we spend a lot of time together and enjoy each others company.
I think a lot of why the relationship has lasted this long is our willingness to give and take. I allow him to be him as long as he respects me and vice versa. the thing I have to agree with is their jealousy and how much of an issue that is. I try to reinsure him that if im here im here and im his. I think that this can be a prosperous relationship if both parties are willing to put forth effort!!
I am a Libra girl who dated a Scorpio. It's very true that Scorpio's are very jealous as he constantly wanted to know whether there were other people in the relationship and hated seeing me talk to other guys, even though they were just friends.
But he was very emotional and open with his feelings, as opposed to me who was quite distant, that distance not helping ads he did not give me a chance to relax in the relationship and be my true self. In the end, I could not deal with the fact that he was talking to other girls to make me jealous, and left as all the compliments he used to give me were gradually becoming less frequent. I can say that Scorpio's sure know how to sting. I don't think I will ever forget this boy.
Libra woman dating a Scorpio man. I dated a Scorpio man and later on we both decided it was better to be friends. I did experience jealousy I've heard so much about and the controlling and dominating part of his personality.
I am loyal and faithful. Fooling around in a relationship is a ridiculous waste of time. If I feel the relationship can't be repaired then both should go their separate ways. Life is too short for nonsense. My problem with him was his secretive nature. I really don't need to know all of your business especially if it doesn't concern me, however, when it does I don't like to be spoon fed information either.
Our issues were trust. For some reason he didn't trust me. I never fooled around on him or flirted with anyone. I think my personality and friendliness is what made him suspicious of me. He took it as flirting especially when it came to other men. The irony is how he interacted with other woman, which was to me a form of flirting. I never reacted to his encounters with the other sex but I did have conversations with him about it. The love making was second to none. He was absolutely the best lover I've ever had.
The relationship fizzled out because I became bored with his dark side. He started off as very sociable but that didn't last. He didn't like crowds and I drive in social settings. He became distant and broody so I called it off. The irony is that we are great friends now and talk more now as friends than we did as lovers. We even started a business venture together that's going very well, only after we established our roles in the business. I will always love him. He tells me he loves me every day. We both are in relationships with other people right now, but for the most part the Libra woman Scorpio man relationship works best as a friendship or a business partnership not as lovers. Too many differences in personalities to make it work.
I am Libra woman and right up to this point I feel that I have actually met my match...I respected him upon our first meeting. He is spiritual and his will is very strong. He is for the most part patient; however I had a taste or two of his sting. Being that he thinks I am use to getting my way...he simply won't let me have it. I know he is loving just by the way he speaks to me. Since meeting him I have grown so much more spiritually and emotionally. I am in love with him and dangerously to a fault.
I am a Libra woman who just met a very sexy Scorpio man a few days ago. Physically, he is totally my type -- bad boy. I've known another Scorpio man who was totally the Scorpio personality that is written about. I would love to get to know this new Scorpio man more. We talked about zodiac signs, and I mentioned a Scorpio is jealous, possessive, etc., but he says he's nothing like that. Says he go with the flow, easygoing. But he has been married 3 times already and he's only 41!!! So what does that tell you????
Libra girl dated Scorpio man for 12 years. Possibly the best and only person who could love me with such intensity, passion and single minded devotion. Chased me for a year before I agreed to go out with him. Then chased me half way across the world to be with me when I moved overseas for work. However I could never change the Scorpio stubbornness and single minded pursuit of what was important to him - should have read this blog 12 years ago....
Warning Libra Women!! Scorpio men have a way of casting a spell on us Libra Women.... They are SO moody and can not handle our free loving nature.. It's not that we are cheaters but we like to be friends with everyone and they can not handle that and begin to punish us with childish behavior and outbursts. This spell is VERY intense however the relationship between the Libra and Scorpio is such that when it is over it is OVER!!!!!!!!!! Usually no lingering heartache, at least in my case.. So Libra Women if you are not already under his spell get out now and go find and Aries Man or a Taurus Man. My husband of over 10 years is actually a little of both since he was born on April 20th... Stay away from the Scorpio, it's a very lonely love.... It usually does not last!!
I was born on the first day of Libra. I met a Scorpio man at very first time; I never felt in love with him at all. After three months, I met him again; "He said, he is interested in me." I'm pretty shocked. I was nervous inside as he and I are exchanged conversations, yet I still didn't love him until he called me several times. Then I started to love him because he is determine and very supportive. He said, "he wanted to make me happy." We enjoyed each other so much. He is a mysterious. Why do I love him? What kind of loyal Scorpio man has? Tell me, please. Am I fall under his spell? He never told me that he love me but I always do.
Libra woman here....and I have been with this Scorpio man for 5 yrs now...and coming to an end...its hard and difficult when you are under their dangerous spell. I do NOT recommend Libra woman to get intimately involved with a Scorpio man...at first they are great lovers; everything you could ask for and for madly in love with. Look deep and analyze them deeply....a Scorpio man is manipulating, SECRETIVE, liar, set in their own ways, selfish, MOODY...and in the end will turn his back on you. BE CAREFUL, be VERY careful.....
From a Libra woman, in answer to the prior post, if any man doesn't tell you he loves you after a reasonable period of time then he probably doesn't. I've been with a Scorpio for many years happily and let me tell you, when he truly loves you, you will know. And for Scorpio men when they are with the woman they truly love, they mate for life. You won't have to wonder or worry. When you're in, you're in.
well I just read everyone else post and I am a Libra dating a Scorpio ive been trying to find out will it work because I like him so much already but I don't want to waste my time on someone who doesn't feel the same im like sooooo attracted to his exterior but cant deal with not knowing how he feels its crazy especially after reading how every relationship worked out different im hoping this will last and not bore me
Scorpio men have such a big amount of power over us Libran women im still in love with one now and have been 4 years we always got together and then broke up again constantly. Scorpio men like the chase and the are manipulating they play mind games and can be very deceiving. NEVER TRUST THEM ! because they will steal your heart and make you pay
Libra 43 year old woman here. I've been interested in a Scorpio man for almost a year. We talked for a long time, went out once and decided we were going to try at a relationship. But it was long distance and right after this it seemed he was never available. Everything had to be on his terms. Phone calls, text, chat, email...always on his schedule, and if I needed to talk he didn't seem willing to shift his priorities.
Aside from that he already had a very active life and would go out often, and I was stuck at home waiting by the phone. That didn't last long at all for me. As soon as I saw where this was headed I put a stop to it.
Only thing worse than being single and lonely, is being in a relationship and lonely. So when I told him it was best if we slow it down and not be exclusive, he basically just disappeared.
A few weeks ago he got back in touch. Something about this man got under my skin. There is definitely a sexual magnetism, but something emotional lacking in him. I thought maybe we could make this work but I'm seeing a lot of similarities in him and the things I'm reading here. This all validates for me that this relationship is better left as an "almost was". And it's time for me to put my energies towards finding a more astrologically compatible man.
Thanks to everyone for sharing here.
I am a Scorpio woman and had an affair with a Libra man... all I can say is that he's really an easy going and very sociable person. most of the time I give him silent treatment which really annoys him.. he's so flirtatious, which infuriate me so much, he doesn't care a bit about my emotions and worst he really love sex!!! he's really onto it,,, never give even a bit concern if he satisfies me or not, all his concern is his satisfaction. he also doesn't show any affection or concern when I'm explaining something that I want for the relationship.. I dumped him because of that. he communicates with me after a year... but all I can say is hell!! no way anymore.
Libra women here, I have dated and is still friends with a Scorpio man, I fell hard for him I still love him yet he lied to me about why he moved to another state to be with his ex-girlfriend, he still comes to see however when I found out I immediately gave him the best sex ever and left him along, this time I did the stinging!
Lovely Libra here... I met my Scorpio man at work while bartending, we always had something to talk about when he ordered his usual meal.. we ran into thither often and he invited me to a party on new years eve...I couldn't deny the invite and went...we had the best time and danced all night together.. was captivated by his penetrating eyes and I knew he was un dressing me with them...He then took me back to my hotel and we ended up having sex!!! Not to mention this was the best sex I have had in a while!!! I really like him and don't want him to think that I am too easy but he was just so sexy and irresistible ...I gave in..
Im a Libran woman in love with a Scorpio man., I must say that there is a great magnetism in this man he really made me uncomfortable with his intensity & sexuality, when he was chasing me. It was like I was automatically drawn to him like a magnet, but I did not give in easily & made him realize that I am no easy catch for him no matter how desirable he thinks he is, and later he admitted that he loved the chase game because he doesn't like girls who come to him easily, so you see this man enjoys the chasing game!! I know him since a year now & all I can say that if you are honest, understanding, Passionate, flexible & most important loyal to this man he can make the best lover you ever had! emotionally & physically. I know that he loves me very much but he is a shy guy no matter how close he is to you he will never express his emotions easily unless he really confides & trusts you. I think the reason why I get along so well with him though we are different in certain things is because I am very sensitive towards his feelings I can read him, I know what he wants but I will never tell him that I cant stay without him because I still want to be the chase for him!!! that makes me appear mysterious to him & Scorpio always likes a mystery woman remember that! But I love my dear Scorpio man, my heart feels at peace with him by my side & he feels the same about me. All I can say that you have to understand his mood swings, be patient with him, love him madly, be sensitive to him, compliment him and take care of him like a baby & you will get a lover like you have only dreamt of!!!
I am a Libra woman dating a Scorpio man. We have been together for three years now. The first year was kinda of rocky, but now it's like we or salt and pepper, butter and rice, peanut butter and jelly lol I think you get the point.
We have a wonderful relationship; he's my best-friend. We started off talking on the phone and texting and or friendship involved into a wonderful relationship. I can honestly say he is the best thing that has happen to me. He is a great communicator, and he's very passionate about his dreams. He is very excellent in bed as they say about (Scorpio men are great in bed) that's a true statement. I'm not really sure on the commitment issue, because I think we both agree on waiting to get married. Because, we both don't want to rush into that. Right now, we are just enjoying each others company. We travel together, laugh together we are each other shadows. Where you see him you will see me. (Most times)
I can't say we're not compatible, because sometimes I feel like I'm dating myself. I mean it's like he was meant to be here (in life) at the right time. I wouldn't dare change him for no one or nothing in this world.
I have had the chance to spend time with his family and he has done the same with mine. They love him just as much as I do. So, this Libra woman is happy , excited, and in love with her Scorpio man even if he does come off a little controlling and jealous, but hey we all have that issue sometime or point in life.
I'm Virgo/Libra cusp-shy but brave; determine, loyal, honest, love, and respect to someone who I shared the connection and love deeply in my heart; I expected those qualities in return. I'm beautiful from the inside out with ability and knowledge. I have slipped and get lost in the Scorpio's darkest and mystery hole for awhile; his spells can not be last or has power of controlling someone to surrender or love him as a naturally in love. There is nothing left but torment. There is absolutely no 2nd chances for a secretive or mystery Scorpio man-NO MORE. To Virgo/Libra ladies, be careful with a Scorpio man. He wants you because you have a beautiful heart. I'm not scare but to be aware and no need to run. There are other signs are better than Scorpio. Real Love is real without pretending or hiding. I thought Scorpio is nicer as the Beast or a spider man. Totally it is opposite. lol, lol; never and ever again. Not worth it just in the bed-ha, ha, ha....and waist time, too.
I don't believe who is bragging a bout their Scorpio man. No! No!
Virgo/Libra cusp: Good luck to all beautiful Virgo/Libra cusp!!!
I am a Libra woman who was dating a Scorpio man, and I must say it was great, until I found out he had a baby and a girlfriend that I didn't know about. although they are very handsome and can easily lure people in (esp. Libra woman) with their charm and BEAUTIFUL eyes (and smile Lol) , Scorpio men are very secretive , although they want every single detail about your life. they are also very manipulating. I found out about my Scorpio mans girlfriend and child 3 months after we started dating in 2007 ..we did not stop messing around until 2009. although he would treat me so badly ; there is just something about a Scorpio man. the sex was truly amazing! and although sex is usually not of importance to me , with him it was something I would always look forward to. a lot of people say Scorpios are dark , and have this just , really hard side to them but I would have to disagree. we had our bad times but for the most part it was one of the funniest relationships I've ever been in .
This is very difficult. I am a Scorpio male, for nearly five years involved with a beautiful Libran woman. The attraction between us was instant, and has always seemed to be somehow 'destined' or meant to be, on a very deep level. We are mature people, but we met initially as teenagers and lost touch, finding ourselves connecting in later life - she at the end of a long and unhappy marriage, and me after many failed long term relationships. The sexual relationship has been sublime. What frightens me is the degree of accuracy in this blog, and also on the site in general, about the problems that Scorpio and Libra face. During the last year, my true nature - possessive, jealous, reclusive and passionately infantile - has conflicted terribly with all of her native aspects, and during the last six months in particular, there have been many occasions when my tantrums and outbursts have caused her considerable difficulty. I have begun to feel that she has begun to close down. Her love for me, which once seemed unequivocal, is now subject to many uncertainties. I feel that I have pushed the boat out too far, and that we can never regain what we once shared. She seems to have withdrawn, and I seem to be unable to trust her. I am truly sorry to lose the depth of relationship that we once had - but I seem to be unable or unwilling to be 'scheduled' into the bigger framework of her busy and demanding life. I am not good with compromise and need to feel that the person who is the centre of my life feels the same. Maybe I should just let go ??? Maybe someone out there can help me make the decision. Is it worth pursuing something which seems so bound for failure ?? Can a Scorpio man ever win the love of a Libran who has closed down ?? Will I ever - or she - be truly happy and satisfied with this astrological partnership ?? What should I do ??
It is hard for me to believe a Libra woman who is saying about their Scorpio man are awesome-great!!! Ha, Ha, HA...As I read the astrology fact of each sign combination (Chemistry)
My god!! Scorpio man's and Libra lady's chemistry is very Low as in Compatibility 2, Sex 2, and Communication 1, but Virgo and Scorpio chemistry combination is high 4, 4, and 4, yes!!! That is the truth. Anyway, as general, Ladies, Libra!! Have you read Astrologist, David's explanation about compatibility yet?? 4 and 5 are the best match. I'm a real Virgo have been conflict with Libra man a lot of time; I knew he is a snob look like a nerd. Scorpio MAN is the man-mature, not a baby. I hope all Libra relationship with Scorpio man last forever...lol, lol, lol. If you are not sure, ask David or visit his web to read every detail, and I'm sure he will help you in any question of your concern. I see there are Virgo and Scorpio are the best match!!! Virgo.
My responding to a Scorpio man on the above. For you and your, Libra woman. I'm not surprising, Libra is very smart, pretty, and good communication. In your situation, I may not believe that your true nature such as jealous, possessive, reclusive, passionately infantile caused a conflict/difficulty between you and your, Libra? Libra is very Intelligent, Beautiful, and Loyal/wants to compromise and make love & harmony- she never allows any kind of conflict or a fight to interrupt between her and her lover.
In that sense, both of you have a long term relationship. Libra's Love is very clear as a crystal/divine toward you. Libra is a sign of devotion to the love one; it is worth it if you are lucky enough, you will win her LOVE once again.
In my opinion, if you still having a desire (in Love) and wish the best LOVE from Libra as you did, no matter what the distant or how is busy of her framework or a schedule is very tight, you never give up or never let go if you believe within yourself. You just feel that your Libra has begun to withdraw or close down; in fact you don't know for sure. Also, it is very hard to lose the depth of a precious relationship that you ever had. This means if you have no self commitment for someone who loved you, how will you know that you can win Libra's Love?
Otherwise, what caused your Libra close down? Sound not very true when I read your articles; there must be something obstacle Libra in a real life not because of her native aspect. Well, beyond that I don't know for sure; in addition, you are not too sure either if your Libra happy & satisfy with this astrological partnership. I believed that is her personal; I can't guess, but Let me tell you if I'm you, I will never let her withdraw or slip away from me; I'll do anything as possible to win her heart.
you need David a Professional to read the astrology's chart for both of you. Day, date, time, year are important.
Believe me, if Libra is your Precious Love and as well as you meant to be a 'destine', there is no need to be frighten because she is your; you is hers; you need to trust her and communicate with her. "Communication is a magical healer."
Wishing you good luck, Scorpio man.
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Libra woman been with Scorpio man for 10 years. Roller coaster ride rife with his jealousy, possessiveness, lack of trust, and worst of all, mean-spiritedness!. Scorpio men are dark, have a strong mean streak and you should RUN if you ever encounter one. They abuse verbally, emotionally, and sometimes physically. It's always all about them - no compromising ! They are cold-blooded, mean-spirited beings who think nothing about hurting the next person's feelings. They are controlling and will walk all over their partner until it hurts. Libra or not, Scorpio men are dark, but if you are Libra, it's worse because we are gentle, kind and want balance. There's never a balance in a relationship with a Scorpio man - they just want to take over your life, and when it suits them, they will turn their back on you. And guess what, when they turn their back you cease to exist ! Steer clear of this men.
P.S. I know people will come at me for writing this, but honestly, I don't mean to run anyone down, it is just a description of my experience with this Scorpio man. Dark, dark, man.
I'm a Libra girl that has gotten into a long distance relationship with a Scorpio guy, and yes, there are some problems with jealousy and my indecisiveness, but like everything a relationship needs work. We've come to terms in what we need to do to make our long-distance relationship last, and to be quite frank, we're complete opposites and we have had to negotiate to understand what we need to do to make it work.
Nothing falls into place like we need it, looking at you all, it kind of disappoints me, I would have thought you would have tried harder to negotiate and try to understand on even a small level how your partner works. I'm 16 and you're all older than me yet I seem to understand that.
All courtesy aside... wake up and take a look at reality, you need to WORK for happiness, not just in careers, but in relationships too!
Scorpios are amazing for partners, trust me, I know, don't let something like jealousy and possessiveness ruin it! Possessiveness + jealousy of other men = one loyal and interested Scorpio man, what can you complain about?
But anyway, I hope everything works out well for you Libra ladies... and Scorpio gentlemen. :)
I'm a beautiful young Libran feel too disappointed. I just met a silly Scorpio male, married, that introduced by my brother; gave me his phone to call him and of course I called him. I just need someone to talk to that all. not to cheat. But this Scorpio fall in love with me I guessed; he confessed that he noticed me since I was a childhood and wish to have me when I grown up. I told him, it is great but too late; even though I separated; because of unhappy relationship, but smart able to live and sleep by myself, yet still I wont take you a way from your wife and two children who are in need of him for support. On the phone, he asked me if I'm cold? I don't care, also asked for my picture and go on vacation to meet him, hes, hes; he keeps calling' to persuade my brother "telling' him that he can't stop thinking of me." I told my brother hell no!!! I don't make mistake; though I love a specific Scorpio man, ha,ha,ha; not all of Scorpio are lucky and deserve a pure Love from Libran. No!!
I am a Scorpio man who is totally smitten with a Libra woman. I am 45 years old and she is ten years younger. If anyone in the world has ever had a struggle with jealousy I will have to admit that it was me. I've been divorced for nearly 20 years and have just kinda avoided relationships because of the bad traits that I know I have.
After a lot of spiritual growth I am mostly in control of all the dark energy and with this Libran's personality we get along great in social or exclusive settings. When we are alone there are zero issues. We talk, lay around on the couch together and have incredibly passionate sex.
Here is how it all works. First of all you Scorpios have to get that jealousy is your problem not the result of something your sweet Libra did. They are flighty, sociable and flirtatious. If you can't handle that don't get involved with Libra. If I start to get jealous all I have to do is give her a little look. NOT flaming daggers, just a longing glance or touch her hand. She immediately grips my hand, or kisses my cheek or just whispers I love you.
Deep down I know she came with me, she's leaving with me and it is all good but a little attentiveness from her makes even asses in the crowd who want to make you jealous all seem OK.
Libras, pay attention to your Scorpios and talk to them about how you feel. Jealousy is an insecurity and a little reassurance is a small price to pay for the dynamic relationship that can be forged if you both try. In my case I can tell you that I would do ANYTHING in the world for my Libra.
I have a brief comment for Scorpio and Libra-man or woman. I'm not either the side of Libra or Scorpio when I read the articles on this page about Libra and Scorpio, for some of them are having an endless conflict about their relationship and some of them are satisfy. In general, Scorpio has a naturally jealous; possesses with his LOVER some what; for another hand, Libra is very naturally a sign of FLIRTING, but when she has had selected a LOVER-SOUL MATE for intimacy, there is nothing to be doubt about her; when she means she loves you-that what she meant. Love mean cares/forgives if you can't forgive then you will lose every thing that you earned. Libra is determine as well as Scorpio. Libra is socialize; out going, communicating in the public. Simple: Libra is loyal, devotes, and easy going and understanding. Libra is one of the Best signs-unique that I ever noticed. Heh, you are the lucky one if you win Libra. However, it depends on what is on the ASTROLOGY CHART. Your questions and answers is better from David the Professor of Astrology.
Speaking from an earth sign. Best luck to Scorpio and Libra.
First off, I must comment on how strong of a character trait over confidence is in us Libra ladies. All of you had to comment that you were a "beautiful" Libra. Hello Captain Obvious! Libra women were meant to be beautiful, what we are not blessed with is depth! Now that I have pissed all you Libra ladies off, let me explain! I am a Libra woman who is divorced. I met my Scorpio soulmate almost one year exactly after my divorce. When I met him I was the loneliest, most lost soul roaming the earth. I was always partying, ignoring all my problems and responsibilities (including my children). I was a depressed wreck! Initially, I loved his smile, but thought nothing more than this guy would be a great one nightstand or at the very least a great party friend. He claimed to like my best friend, so we settled into a friend category really easily. Then, out of thin air, I found myself being drawn to him. Like a moth to a flame! The only way I can explain it is: without him I felt lost, when I was near him I felt home! We would be sitting in a room full of people, and I would get depressed and think of my troubles. I would lift my eyes, always to find him staring at me with such intensity that it cast shivers down my spine. He would cock his head to the side and say " k pasa" (Spanish for "what's wrong?") It was like, without hardly even knowing one another, my sadness was his. I fell in love with him without even knowing it, and vise versa. It was a few more months of fighting our own feelings till we finally gave in one night to our love. I slept in the same bed with this man every night for 6 months, not once did we ever give into our lust. When we finally gave in, it was to our souls. Libra's fall in a and out of love with the changing of the season. Romance is what is desired. My love with my Scorpio is of another kind. Daily, we fight. It has been the most challenging relationship of my life, but also the most rewarding. We are COMPLETELY incompatible, but we make it work!
I decided to right this to show the other strong character trait of Libra: OPTIMISIM! I understand and know all too well the troubles and miseries that can arise for this match up, for both parties involved! That does not mean it's hopeless! All things worth having in life require hard work and dedication. This year makes year number 3 for us, and I'm excited! I know we will fight and I know we will have many magical moments, I welcome it all! There is a lesson for both people in this match up to learn! Libra: Look further. We pride ourselves on our ability to analyze and judge every situation, always coming up with the correct answer. I'm afraid with this man, you are always wrong. Probably why most of you were so quick to flee! This man is a mystery, that's the "spell" that keeps getting mentioned. We love a puzzle! This also means depth of soul. Scorpio's love in a way that Libra can't even fathom, but subconsciously desires. That's the lesson for us, love deeper. Love isn't all chocolates and flowers. It's true longing, undying commitment. Scorpio has these qualities, and ultimately wishes to share them with you! That brings us to Scorpio's lesson: SPEAK! This girl loves you SOOOO much! Now show her that in other ways besides sex. Conversation brings Libra the biggest orgasm! She longs to know your heart, what is that childhood memory you can't let go of that torments your everyday mood. You want her to understand and know you without ever giving her that chance. You are special creatures blessed with intuition of feeling, we are not. Our gift is communication, your weakest trait. If Libra and Scorpio both learn to learn from each others strengths and understand the weaknesses. I am optimistic about my relationship, we grow stronger everyday. I will say that I really had to humble myself and learn to see from his point of view. Scorpio is ultra sensitive, and it takes a lot of compromise, but if your patient and understanding you will see soo much light in very dark person. I'm a better person because of knowing him. Even if it's not meant to be forever, I know our time together is for a greater purpose. I feel truly blessed! P.S. for the Scorpio man who thinks he pushed his Libra away: we don't give up, she thinks you've left and she's preparing for your sting. Now is the time to come out of hiding and show her your committed in an unconditional way. She thinks you wanted to be alone, so she became independent it's a defense mechanism. More than anything she wants ya'll to grow old together. She wants marriage. So you need to man up, you can't have her put her wants hold forever! Good luck, God bless!
That is very interesting lady, Libra! You said, "Love isn't as a chocolate and flower." Love means to commit, sacrifices, dedicate, and exchange by compromising of how the individual feel toward each other of both partners. These are simple; there no need to work hard in order to find a solution if both of them are match, then it is match. In contras, Libra wants to feel, sees, and understands how is Scorpio's reality of though or an idea like? While Libra with Scorpio, there is not all about SEX.... Since Scorpio man is very secretive, that makes Libra more curios. Libra likes puzzle but not like to play a head game. As well as, im Libra, I never been party, going out, and neglected all of my important duties-serious.
I'm Libra young woman, very independent, secure, and successful. I'm hard for a man who wants to fool me. I'm easy going but not an easy to hook up. I met my Scorpio man; I love him; yet still love him very much without limit or unconditional. It doesn't bother me if he feels that he cant share or compromise with me about anything, and if it is bother him sooo much, he doesn't have to. He knows exactly how I feel for I showed him but I don't know him; it's okay; I already understood; I love him even more because he is the lucky one. The first Love and touch; it just about him and me. Nothing comes between us; our bond are very strong. Good luck to everyone!
I m Scorpio man I married with Libra women an it is love marriage but I am always suspect her but love like god
I want to know this is she is loyal with me or what?
"I m Scorpio man I married with Libra women an it is love marriage but I am always suspect her but love like god I want to know this is she is loyal with me or what?"
Just ask her, tell her your insecurities, if you keep suspecting her she will notice and consider it offensive, trust me, I know, I'm a Libra woman. ;)
But, considering my own judgment on it, and the lack of detail you've given about the situation, I think she's most likely loyal to you.
An important note, whilst like all Libran ladies, I love to flirt, but I'm loyal, I refuse to cheat, the only time I've ever done that was when I was insecure and unhappy [when I was with my Taurus ex].
Your Libra partner will not be exactly like me, no-one is ever the same, so you're better off getting the answer from the source, your Libra lady, and like I said earlier, just tell her your doubts and explain why you feel like that. You get cheaters from all Zodiac signs and you get loyal ones from all signs, signs don't completely make a person, unlike most Libras I'm not very social and prefer my privacy. :)
Anyway, enough blabbering on my part, I wish you the best of luck dear Scorpio.
Man, all of you guys are more than twice my age yet I seem to have better luck with relationships, I guess this settles it, you don't get wiser with age after all. XD
Libra'sAngel27
I just came back into my relationship with a Libra women after being gone for 10 months...
She says there is trust issues with me which are understanding, not so much about cheating on her but more so on where I went on that day and stuff like that.
There are a lot of influencing males in her life, her brother we don't get along) her agent and her dad. Not to mention she to has a lot of friends that are males and with my jealousy, it kind of puts a damper on our vibe together....
I'm trying my hardest to deal with my jealousy and flat out trust her... why not!!! She is open with me about her friendships so what's my problem..... I want her all to myself. crazy huh.
We have a 4 month old son together, but we've both said that we wont stay together just because of him. I will be a good dad regardless... but I want us to be a family and grow with each other.
If it is the Lords will then every thing will workout for us as a family, I put my trut in Him. Every thing will be alright regardless, how do I know FAITH......
Question: why would a Libra cheat on her man. is he capable of pushing her to do so, or would that have to be something in her that she might eventually do regardless?
So long as she doesn't cheat on me I'll endure whatever I have to just to be in our relationship. How does that sound? If she were to read that would she act out just cause. And if acting out more often then not becomes a habit do I give up
A Scorpio man has gone TEN MONTHS a way from your Libra sweet heart; how come??? Well, ten months, that is too long. It doesn't mean you, Scorpio, push her away but most likely it does if you went away from your Libra woman ten months without contact her; that can be mean you neglected your relationship. Can you imagine of how she feels about you and herself when you had gone?? Oh, please don't tell me that your Libra cheated on you. Libra will not cheat on you if you went for a good reason. But Libra may have the right for herself to date or in love with other man depend on her situation. Even though Libra has lots of males friends but not that kind of close..close...friend. She needs a real man, lover, and a friend in her life. Libra values and devotes to love one as you. Please let me say again, TEN MONTHS!!! The wound is going to heal and a Four years old son can lives without one of an absent parent. If you knew for sure that Libra is with another great guy, yo you need to let her go in peace. That new guy is the winner; no complaint, lol, lol.
Libra cannot be reserved, lol, lol....I feel sorry for sweet Libra. Be happy if or in case, Libra wants you once again...
Just ended a relationship with a Scorpio man who is the love of my life.
The sex was so tender, passionate and intense. The connection we had was magical and he was very magnetic, charming and charismatic. But he was a substance abuser and I had to remove myself from him.
Hopefully one day he will come out of it. There is not one moment that I don't think of him and I will never forget him and will always love him.
Libra woman
Fingers crossed for both of you. Hopefully is he misses you half as much as you miss him it may be exactly the incentive he needs, though sadly it's very hard for anyone to compete against drugs for an addicts attention.
Not a good match, even the deepest Libra will never amount to the depth a Scorpio needs to retain a relationship. Cancer, Pisces, Virgo and Capricorn are by far better matches.
Comment : While my experience agrees with you on the signs you listed, Virgos and Capricorns aren't any emotionally deeper or intense than a Libra (and tend to be no where near as attractive!) So it cant be as straightforward as that. The grass is always greener, and I love my Libra. posted from: Scorpio man Libra woman
For the benefit of all you MALE SCORP AND FEMALE Libra LOVERS,I HAVE CREATED A PICTORIAL ALBUM in the FACEBOOK WITH ALL THE UPS AND DOWNS OF A MALE SCORP AND FEMALE Libra RELATION. THE ALBUM IS ONE OF MY WIFE A Libra AND MYSELF A SCORPIO.
Libra woman scorp male relation is a precious and rare one and what is rare and precious is a real Mackenna's gold type adventure. As mentioned in one of the posts by a devastated scorp male that his Libra lady has shut down from him; I would like to say is that Libra in the earlier stages of love gives all to her scorp male, the latter is more used to darker aspects of life and is highly temperamental towards the Miss innocence, that is when the petals of her innocence begins to shed. Both of you might need to go thro this for several months, i.e the stage when both of you become mature, she appreciates your mystical wisdom and your desire to shield her innocence from preys and you as a self-sufficient scorp male begin to appreciate her abstract wisdom and begin to search for your complement in her.
From then on the Librafemale-Scorpmale reaches the skies which no other combo can match.
I don't mind sharing the album with you guys at the expense of my privacy, you Libra-scorp couples are bound to appreciate it and get better enlightened. My Facebook login is Rgopi.vanitha.
Virgo and Capricorn women are actually very beautiful good looking natural women with high morals and values. Many Librans are loose with this and have their own ideas on what's being faithful and what's not. Scorpio men don't retain relationships with these women, they're more for passing time or dry spells. Good luck but you will see many more success stories in the Scorpio Pisces and Scorpio-cancer thread. Most Libras end up heartbroken, confused, or bitter if not all 3 by the time scorp is done with them.
I'm a Libra girl that dated a Scorpio man for 6 months. If he treated me like how he treated me in the bedroom, I'd still be with him. Outside of the bedroom he treated me like crap and only cared about himself (kinda soulless and cold). I hooked up with yet another Scorpio after that and SAME THING! Libra women listen up! They can't treat us the way we want them too, we can upgrade and be treated wayyyyy better than this.
I'm a Libra girl and I had similar experiences as what many have mentioned about Scorpio men. At first I thought he was arrogant and unfriendly but then, I found myself drawn to him. I can't explain it but he was just so magnetic and I love his dark aura. He's just the type I would stupidly fell for- the bad boy. No doubt I found him to be very sexy and we had our moments. He started to become very friendly to me and we developed this intimate 'relationship'. The sex talk and chat was smoldering hot but what angered me was how he would conveniently ignored me when we're with our group of friends. It was like I never existed to him, so I began to withdrawn just to see if he would chase me. Sadly, he did not. One time he was staring into space and I asked him what was wrong and he replied, "Just a man in thought." It's like he refused to 'let me in' which really saddened me. After that, I told him I can't do this anymore and even gave him a HUGE hint that I loved him. A few weeks later, I found out he was involved with this less appealing looking girl who happened to be...A Scorpio TOO! I confronted him and he was so angry (he's scary when he's angry but I didn't care) that I found out and demanded who told me. And I said I'm not an idiot because I saw that he's always with this Scorpio girl. It ended badly and he called me childish. Whatever.
I couldn't sleep that night and the next day, I was so ridden with guilt for forcing him to tell me he already had a girlfriend. So, I texted him saying that I was sorry for being impulsive. An hour later, he replied back and he said that it was okay and that we're friends. And if I have anything to ask him, he will explain. He made it sound like he owns me an apology but still he didn't apologize!
I got so sick of his nonsense that I cut all ties from him. And when I bumped into him in the bookstore, he just walked passed me like I wasn't there. And in turn, I too ignored him. But, he still has some kind of control over me. It took me a long time until it all sinks in and finally, I cried.
It really broke my heart that I wasn't good enough for him to trust me when I have shared so many things with him. And along came another girl and 3 secs later, she won him over. I wasted months waiting for him, in the end, I only got sorrow.
Libra female dating Scorpio male for 6 months. He pursued me for over 2 years until I finally broke down and agreed to go out with him. Good points, he is very intense (a little too intense for my liking), emotional, kind and caring. Bad points, he is jealous, moody and has outbursts over trivial things. I am still deciding whether this is a good match for me or not. Right now, I am about 50/50 with it.
Young teenaged Libra girl, yes, I fell in love with an older Scorpio boy. I don't regret anything with him, he showed me the real meaning of love. the sex was great, it was amazing. it was so passionate. even if we were both exhausted, and sore, it was still amazing. the chemistry was always there. thats what drew me towards him. the fact that whenever I was with him, all I wanted to do was to hold him. I think its rare that you find someone that you can feel that way about. yes, he broke my heart, yes he is currently dating a girl I use to be really close with. he ended things with me because 'I reminded him of his ex'. ive heard stories about his ex, some good, some bad. she was the first girl that broke his heart, probably the only girl. ever since her he was afraid to commit. she was the last girl he dated. we didn't technically 'date' but we did say I love you. he broke me a couple of times, everything started out great. it started off just as a sex thing. Scorp ios are extremely jealous, and they hate being played around. they will pretend everything is okay, especially when everything is not. it was all a game to him. we went to the bottom together, we watched each other cry, we loved each other. I did anything & everything for that boy. he broke my heart however, and is now playing very cruel mind games, spreading rumors all over this small town. & im here wondering, what the fuck did I do to him? he is not man enough to give me an explanation for any of his actions, & laughs when he sees me around. he doesn't see me as me, he sees me as his ex, who by the way cheated on him with 5 different guys. I told him thousands of times that I cant even look at another boy the way I looked at him. & its true, I hated that fact because it made it so hard for me to move on. I am now currently starting a relationship with ironically enough another Scorpio boy, although this time around, he has never been hurt the way Scorpio one has been. & I want things to last between us, because he is really something. & treats me like an angel.
I personally believe that a relationship between a Libra woman & Scorpio man can work wonders, it teaches you things that you never knew about yourself, it shows you your own personal strengths & weaknesses. he was my first real love, & although he may not be worth the tears & scars right now, without him, I wouldn't be who I am today.
but just be warned, he is a real heart breaker, but once he is devoted to you, you feel on top of the world. x
Im a beautiful young Libra woman and I have recently met a Scorpio male who is the cutest thing ever :)He approched me but I am finding it hard to see any depth to him.I have been reading up on his sign. normally I can read and seduce any man of any sign but this is my first Scorpio and he is a challange and I cant resist him.He is like no other male I have ever met. He has a sexy mysterious presence about him that I love.He is truly unique. I WANT HIM!!!!!BAD I have a very good feeling about us in my soul BUT I have to get his full attenion first. can a fellow Libra woman give me tips on landing this sexy scorpio? thanks ladies:)
Scorpio Male/Libra Female - I hate to say this, but some have it all wrong. When we pull away and retreat inside ourselves, that is when we actually care about Libra women (any woman really). We are going through tests and checklists to see if you are a potential mate. When we are overly affectionate, especially if it's out of the blue, it's not a sweet surprise, it is overcompensating because we more just cheated. Sorry Libra ladies, your innocense is sweet for awhile but then your overly flirty ways and lack of passion lead us astray. The only reason for a long term relationship with a Libra woman is to kill loneliness and because you all do not pry enough to realize that we're cheating. Rule of thumb is this: Right when you feel secure and think this mix is going somewhere and your Scorpio boy couldn't be more loving, that is when he is putting on a facade of what normal people do because he already has at least one other lover who reignited his spark that has fizzled with you. Warning, I've dated 3 Libras all for over 3 years and cheated on all of them repeatedly. My brother is also a Scorpio and has a similar time/affair ratio. We just can not be faithful to you
hi thanks for letting me have my say here, not read every post I am a Libra woman falling for a Scorpio man, we have only known each other from august, to be honest I did not really fancy him, but....
the charm of a Scorpio man and he is spanish oh my, I know I am going to regret this, yet I go there wanting everything from him, wish I did get, but I want more, really don't know how I feel, he says everything I want to here, but I had that from an Aries man who said everything I want to here, which really is not the same, all I ask of (my) Scorpio man is honesty, is that a trait he can deliver, I wonder as many Libra woman do, trying to just go for it no questions ask, I guess I will be back to tell you, hope you listen, no matter what anyone says (STAY AWAY), I am sucker for love, for we are from venus, what can we do,
OK, how do I get my Libra woman back. We been on and off for a year. We started in an affair when I was with a Pisces woman. If you never heard the chemistry between a Pisces and Scorpio its bout as deep as is gets. I'm talking about telepathy almost. I met my Libra woman and fell in love at first sight. We cheated once and I left my Pisces which devastated her. But still the Pisces woman sees the best in me and to this day will do anything for me. My extreme guilt has shadowed my love for my Libra. For the past year I have always felt I owed Pisces something because what I did to her and I have a heart. But when it comes to love, its my Libra. And libras lighthearted and "fleeting" personality makes me a little timid to go all in. Unfortunately we have fallen off again and I really miss her and want to trust her. I disrespected her by being in contact with my ex and I need to know what to do to get her back, and keep her this time. Please don't bash me, Im already l ow enough, and my Libra has some fault to. I need constructive advice because my soulmate is slipping away, if she hasnt already. When I won her back before persistance was key but now I don't know what to do. She doesn't return none of my text, and they are weeks apart. It doesn't help that Libra take their friends advice litterally not knowing that in the end those same friends will do what's best for them. She is in a sorority (check spell) so it's me against 19. But me being a Scorpio I believe I can do anything I put my mind too. And ready to face the fire. Help me yall. Flowers, letters, text, are all exhausted. I need to know how to get her thinking being with me again. This combo can reach higher levels of love if they just work at it. They are the only two sign wired for it. But the time and effort it takes to do so the Libra is gone.
the Scorpio is called the oldest soul in the zodiac. we are the most misunderstood people of the zodiac. we go through life in search of that fantacy love. think about romeo and juliet, titanic. the star character Leo dicaprio won those parts because to show depth and passion like that is something he could relate to. he is a scorpio. for all the ladies who think a Scorpio is controlling, jealous etc. might be true. I got one word to cure all that. reassurance. let him know that everything will be okay. say we'll grow old together. libra's have a pride issue when it comes to reassuring their mate. they feel it should be understood. and quite frankly I think yall are scared of the depth. and as long as you do that you'll keep having problems. reassure your scorp, this one simple thing, and you'll have someone to gladly take a bullet for you. literally. yall be easy, love hard, thats the only way. misunderstood Scorpio male. duece
Alright. Here goes my experience with an assho-- er, I mean... Scorpio man:
When I first met him at work, I was very standoffish towards him. He has a pretty strong personality and came off as not my type whatsoever. I worked with him for about 4 months before I finally agreed to go on a date with him.
The date went pretty well. And we actually had a year long relationship continue on after that.
The sex was FANTASTIC to say the least. Best partner I've had yet.
Sad thing was, that's all he was good for besides going on trips with. His sign is known for taking initiative and getting things done. And he did just that. We went everywhere. I love to travel and see what else is out there, and I was able to do that with him. So those two qualities were much appreciated.
The communication between us was offbeat, he always seemed to be hiding things, and was extremely impulsive. I mean, I'm drawn to the bad boys, but he was getting way too out of line with things.
The person I know now isn't the person I knew then. Besides the sex, a Scorpio will fizzle out like a sparkler on the 4th of July.
I can't see marrying/having kids/owning a house with a Scorpio man after my experience.
If you're looking for a one night stand, Scorpio is your man. Otherwise, MOVE ON.
Scorpio Man here, with Libra woman... Libra women have taken their shots at the Scorpios... but when I stay with a Libra, I just don't feel the intensity and passion reciprocated... Scorpios need this reciprocation... and intensity... and the fact that Libras can't provide this is the reason it ends badly.
I'd say, it's great attraction, but a lot of work to stay together. Not an ideal fit.
i'm a Libra women , & igo out with a Scorpio . I say , out of all my relationship the one with a Scorpio is very different . At first I would alway putt him on the spot , ididn't want to get hurt like idid in the past . But everytime iwould try to prove something , he proved me wrong . He love was like no other , & the sex ? Like idied & gone to heaven ! I've been dieing for the ' i'm inlove' feeling ever since i've gotten hurt by my aires ex . & ifinally found it ! x The only problem was , islept with another guy . & I am mad guilty bout' it , but thats not goingg to change anything . I know he would never , ever do anything like that to me . I truely don't want to lose him cause' if ido ilose my love & he takes the last part of my heart saying you wil find love. & Deep down iknow he is goingg to die from the hurt . Should itell him ? Or should irealize what idid was wrong & never do it again . & stay true to the one ilove ?? H E L P
I'm a Libra woman, falling for a Scorpio man.
I've never ever dated a Scorpio before, never even been friends with one. In all honesty, they frighten me, freak me out, and irritate me all at once. Possessiveness is something I CANNOT STAND, because I myself am the least possessive person on the planet. The one Scorpio that was in my life for a breif period of time taught me the lesson I (thought) I needed to know--STAY AWAY.
But now, as mentioned, I'm seeing this Scorpio man (well, Libra/Scorpio cusp). At first, I thought he was a Libra, and I was very excited! I get along GREAT with other Libras, but then other things started to happen, and I was like "Wait....he can't be a Libra!". Well, turns out he's a Scorpio and now I'm entirely freaked out and ready to run, but I'm too far under his spell to walk away.
I'm just hoping that the Libraness in his cusp will help him temper his possessiveness and controlling aspects, because that WILL kill the relationship, if he can't get those feelings under control. I am so turned off and will not tolerate stuff like that. IN small ways, yes, but if he needs constant reassurance, that's not going to happen. His ascendent is Capricorn, and moon is in Taurus, so I'm hoping, again, those signs will help control the Scorpio side.
BUT--the sex is FANTASTIC! Just out of control (which is another reason I probably can't just walk away, lol). I feel very safe and protected around him, like that I never need to worry about anything in life ever again. He provides VERY WELL for me, but it does bother me that he sorta wants to be the one to make all the money. I'm in the process of considering opening a business with him, but the Scorpio thing........I just can't trust a Scorpio! Urgh. Why can't he have been a Libra?? Lol Then the sex would have been mediocre though (I dated a Libra boy for a lonnnnggg time and we were best friends, but the sex was super boring).
Anyways--I'm really into this Scorpio, and I know he's into me. Tells me regularily that he'd do anything for me, anything I asked, and always does. Goes out of his way to please me, to give me everything I want and more. He seems to be very honest with me (although now I'm rethinking things, knowing he's a Scorpio--going to go through and do double checks on things, since you Scorpios are not so honest sometimes); he's delicate and manly all at once, this bundle of emotions, teetering on the edge of darkness. I feel like I wanna provide a safe haven, a dependable, stable ground for him to come home to, BUT I cannot handle all these good things if he wants to clip my wings permanently.
I just hope that we can find a common balance that will work for us, because the sex is great and crazy and he does have a heart of gold, swimming in that sea of darkness that is his soul.
People say that Scorpios are mysterious. BS! The word "murky" better describes them. Like muddy water. Anything could be lurking there. Could be piranhas! Usually is....
okay,im a Scorpio cusp and my birthdays on the 28th of october.everyone has to stop judging scorpio's because I have jealous tendecies, but not unless im given that choice.I met a Libra female when we boith were 19 and im 21 now...we have been on and off for the longest time. when I had first met her I didn't really think anything of it.
she is a very beautiful female and I didn't think she really wanted to talk to me. we txted for about ten minutes then we had stopped. an week later I had received a text message from her and we kinda really started hitting it off.
me and her decided to meet up ove the weekend and after the first time we had kissed I couldnt stop thinking about her and we ended up getting together. after that things went downhill.i had to deal with a jealous ex boyfriend of hers,her scretive ways of with holding information, and how she wanted me to get anger atleast once so she could see that side of me but all I did was treat her like an gentleman until eventually I couldnt deal with her jealousness.
but for somkem reason we constantly keep talking after every argument...
im 24, Scorpio male in a relationship with a 21, Libra female for more than a year. its like a roller coaster ride! so much of mind games and power struggle..(but all this behind the scene)! yet a wonderful relatonship filled with joy, laughter and physical compatibility! but being an intense gii, I crave her to be as intensive and make the emotional bonding to the level I want, which she says its difficult for her and she needs time! very confusing! though she loves me and assures me often of her being loyal and committed! (thank god) :)
for others.. its all about keep going with the flow which you created initially that 'attracted' her to u.. like- for guyz-..never stop the "i have enuff girls around even if you leave me" attitude, and girls let you're Scorpio lover "chase" you and ya, even though we guyz don't agree but within we just admire you're "strong personality".. hence keep up with it and u'll have you're Scorpio "for u", "with u" and "loyal to u"..
I first posted almost a year ago, outlining the difficulties I was discovering in my relationship with a Libra woman. Logging on today, I'm truly delighted to find two posts (at least) which refer directly to the questions I asked about how to regain her trust after she seemed to 'close down'. As it happens, we abandoned the relationship some six months ago since things had gone from bad to worse. We seemed to be stuck in a destructive cycle in which the more she withdrew, the more I demanded, so the more she withdrew. This ended in a complete breakdown of communication for a few months, during which I was absolutely devastated. Then, a couple of months ago, I got in touch to ask for the return of some personal belongings, and a dialogue began in email. It seemed, according to her, that she missed me and still felt very close. I was pleased at first, but even in email, my mood would swing. I simply couldn't bring myself to believe in, or trust what she was saying. I t became heated and aggressive and filled with pride, and I was cruel and hurtful in my accusations and now we don't even email. I complained about the withdrawal, the long silence. But reading today, I am grateful for the Libra female's hint - in her PS to me -that 'withdrawal' for Libra is automatic, ' a defence mechanism', becoming 'independent' because she thinks I want to be alone
( post by the lady who refers to Captain Obvious). But I've given her lots of reasons to think I no longer want her. I've gone on about how 'unhappy' her lack of passion and seeming commitment made me. And in one recent email, she even said that she thought she should let me go for my own sake since it just seemed to make me unhappy. I'm also grateful to the libran woman who considered my post in detail - the one whose 'planet is mercury'. You rightly identified that there is an 'obstacle' in her real life, her ex husband who still seems to wield some power over her, and command her loyalty. In fact I have begun to think that she has drifted back into this relationship.
I think, in the end, that I just have to accept that Scorpio and Libra needs are different in love. She cannot give me the passion and definition and clarity and reassurance I need. I cannot give her an even tempered, calm relationship which is free of conflict.
Seems a pity. On so many levels it seemed to be 'intended', fated. Or was that me just projecting ?? Funny really. "Serendipity" is one of my favourite movies. She introduced me to it. It resonated for both of us. Then, the other night, for the first time, I watched '500 days of summer' , and suddenly started to see things differently. Maybe I was in one movie, and she was in another. I'll never get over the fact that something which seemed so 'special' could be so 'spoiled'. And while I know that I was to blame to some extent, she has made no effort to accept any responsibility for how things worked out. She made promises, and they were abandoned. And I don't think I will ever be able to 'trust' again.
Thanks to you all. Great site. Really helpful.
Sad Scorpio
I am a Libra woman in a relationship with a Scorpio man . He is opposite in every way...Loves to debate, has trouble admitting being wrong, selfish,and jealous. He loves to gossip but will be very secretive about himself. He is prone to depression when things aren't going "his" way and often goes away leaving you "hanging". Constantly needs motivating and direction. Wants to be Figure head while actually you quietly lead in the background. Only shows emotion and tenderness inside the bed, outside very cold. These men love to have their way and only show concern when you're on the verge of leaving. In my opionion ...A Libra woman loves to be cherished and taken care of, we want a man to tell us how much we're loved and we crave affection. A Scorpio man will love you, but it will be quiet, uncomunicated love and there will be many ups and downs. This relationship can work, be the Libra must be prepared to give much more than she will ever receive and not feel resentfu l about it.
Message to Scorpios and others who see Librans' detachment as shallowness, or a lack of feeling~
As a Libra myself, I am much more comfortable intellectualizing emotions away, rather than feeling through them and letting them run their course. This does not mean that I don't feel; rather, I am afraid to feel, because of my deep-seated desire to bond with another.
Meet me on my level- the realm of thought. Try to verbalize your feelings- if I know how my detachment is affecting you, I will do what I can to set your mind at ease.
We both crave unity- Librans are just much more fearful of it. Speak your feelings, and it will work wonders (know this is a tall order, but it helps so much)
Libra woman here..well m dating a guy who is a Scorpio and my god is he yummy!! I havent had sex with him yet but he sure is inclined towards it..:P
whats holding me back is that..m always the one who tells him I miss you den he replies back or else he's busy with his shoots..but he always tells me to wake him up in the morning so that his day begins with me...then again if something goes wrong he just sends me a text saying he will talk later or gives me a small detail and vanishes for a while..and I don't text him after that cos I want him to have his space and not look clingy..he calls later at night and explains..
i have gone through the jealously part f it even before v started dating..and I was totally ok with it..
he does not really talk much over the fone or texts now a days...i know he has his engineering exams coming up..but when he is with me I call him my encyclopedia cos he talks to me so well..makes me laugh..tells me I have a great body..m sexy and I have beautiful eyes..or that I kiss him in the best way...weirdest part is his x was a libran too...
i reall dunno what to do!!i don't wanna sleep with him and then kno that all this was just to get in my pants..because it would be terrible it for me cos m still a virgin..pls pls plsss..help me out hereee!!!
To Sad Scorpio,You said that your Libra lady made promises and they were abandoned. What were those promises. I ask because I am having a similar situation with my Libra. We got along great for 5 months or so and then she started losing passion and caring that seemed to be abundant before. Any time I bring my feelings or concerns to her she acts like I am the one that needs to accept her for how she is and that I am the one needing to change my actions and desires. She then seems more distant each time and it takes her longer and longer for things to "get back to normal".
I am a Libra woman dating a Scorpio man, I must admit the typical social butterfly quality dsnt really apply to me I am very reserve and quiet what is funny is that my scorp has no reason to be jelouse because I have no male friends and I call him when I get off work and yet he's still jelouse its hilarious. He had moved into my home awhile back but due to cirsumstances I asked him to leave, my family really dislikes him and he dsnt have a steady job making it really dificult for me to provide for all of us. anyways my problem with him is that im unshure if he's using me or if he truly loves me so Im the one who has the mistrust issues. its really ironic. He is short fused and can be very hurtful but I have learn to deal with it. Gosh I love him, but I am am a very independant woman and I need a man that I can at least count on if need be. I balance between sumisive so he has sligth control, but I wont give him the steering wheel cause I dnt trust his security, scorpios are e powerful sign's arnt they? and libras are supposly lazy? well I can ashure you that I am not lazy and I outperform him. I love him dearly but if he dsnt love himself enougth to change it makes me wonder how he can love someone else. eigther way Im hopeful our problem resolves Im patiently waiting for him, I keep in touch infedelity wasnt our prblm so there migth still be a chance we migth fix this,n we r still talking really good.. idnk maybie its my strong Aries ruled moon or ascendant Leo but I dnt dwell on the fact that he migth not want me. if he loves me good if he dsnt well thats his loss, ived been blessd with plenty of love in my life my children, my family :) and a partner that loves me in my eyes is extra ;).. I have the Libra heart no dougth with a strong personality and a very reserved persona lol.. I don't trust anyone lmao I must admit ived been in 3 relashionships a Gemini being one was very dull, had all th freedom but not because he loved me but because he didn't care at all what I did. and the Scorpio I know why I like him he makes my life exciting and fun, when its good its good to the extreem when its bad ,well you know..lol but its worth the roaller coaster ride, and if it ends all I can say it was fun while it lasted :p but wont end because of me.. Im having tons of fun this is by far the most exciting and intense relashionship ever.
To the guy who asked the question of 'Sad Scorpio', your experience sounds absolutely parallel with my own. I know that exact feeling, the feeling of uncertainty or insecurity during those times that the Libra woman chooses to 'withdraw' or to 'withold' love. And also the strong silent 'judgement' she gives off when we react, as Scorpios react in that circumstance. She is bemused by the intensity of our feelings. She prefers to 'distance' herself rather than face up to conflict. We scorpios need passion, and to feel sure that our partners feel as deeply and passionately for us, as we feel for them. At first we were close, and she confided in me about everything but as time went on, she became evasive, and very economic with the truth. I rarely got a straight answer or the full story. In the end, my trust simply vanished and I found myself unable to believe almost anything she said. We're no longer together, and it make me sad. But at the same time, I don't think I w ould start it again if I was given the opportunity. There can't be love if there is not trust. And I could never trust her again. Good luck in your own love life man. I hope you make it work. But I don't envy you the pain and the struggle. Sad Scorpio
Libra woman and have a married Scorpio chasing me. he is so sexy nice hair, lips, yummy but I am saying no and going back to my boring well-endowed Cap who does not give me enough sex. All that meat and no sex.
Went out with a Scorpio man for the last 7 months. Due to his job nature and constant traveling, we have only had several meeting. He is strange in replying emails (always takes him a long time but when he does reply, it's long) same thing with calling, he could go weeks not calling but when he does call, it's hours on the phone. We recently became intimate and he wants us to slow down and be friends till he has time to nurture a relationship in which I am supportive of the idea and replied his email in kindness and understanding. It had been 2 weeks and not hear from him.
What is up with this? we are not young, He is early 40s and I am almost mid 30. I am Libra of course and love with all my heart.
I am a Libra woman who wuz in a relationship with an Scorpio man. Damn! Where do I start.. LOL how bout where everybody else did.. yall areall rite! Tha sex is off is off tha chain... I loved it.. but he wuz so cold hearted at tyme... and say sum of tha meanest things... he also found it hard 2 express him self... never said sorry for none of his faults... he could never make up his mind with what he wanted.. his emotions went back and forth.. itz like being on an emotional rollercoaster! One minute he wantz you. Then tha next he dnt.. but we did have sum good tyme.. I have never loved nobody much as I loved him. Scorpio love iz very addictive for libra... it keeps you cumi and back
Well fellow Libra ladies, I recently dated a Scorpio man and had all the same things happen to me. He's 45 and I'm 38 so I wanted to believe that this relationship would be mature. HA! I was introduced by a friend and as soon as I set my eyes on him that was it. There was that something about him but I couldn't pinpoint what it was. He asked me out and we went for drinks and conversation. He looked at me like he was undressing me with his eyes. Very forward, very blunt, very sexual and very intense. Not to mention high strung which I found funny. He was a gentleman though, we left with only a hug. After that it was like the kid gloves came off and we started texting and talking constantly. He asked me very intimate sexual questions and honestly I was a little put off and uncomfortable about that. I started getting that feeling in my stomach that something was off but I was intrigued so we kept going. Later that week he asked me over to his place for din ner and a movie. It was great! Was actually very sweet but playful and just plain awnry. It was fun, I had all his attention. It wasn't long after that we got intimate and it was the best. I expected him to stop calling and texting but he didn't. But he did say he was going to be busy with work for the next few days. I said OK, no problem, we'll get together next week sometime. Well next week became 2 weeks without seeing him and the texts became fewer and fewer. Then he didn't text me all weekend until Monday afternoon when before he would text good morning at 8:30 am everyday. Well I didn't reply until that night. I was so hurt but at the same time glad I heard from him again. I thought it was over. I mean, you don't hear from him for a whole weekend, when before it was 3 or 4 times a day, you assume the worst. He responded the next day and started a conversation but by then I had had enough. I told him that this isn't working and to not delay the inevitable any longer. He said OK and that was it. Our entire relationship only lasted 4 weeks. I know that's quick but I had a gut feeling about him...us Librans are intuitive so if you feel that nervous feeling in your gut, you're probably right! Don't ignore it! I couldn't eat the whole time we dated I was so nervous. I lost 10 lbs very quickly. I knew I had fallen for him and I thought he had for me but was quickly brought back to reality when everything changed. Scorpio men are so sexy and so mesmerizing and just have bad news written all over them. I did learn from this experience however. We had conversations that made me think and I learned a lot about myself. So much so that I'm rearranging my life and making it more fun and interesting. But I wasn't comfortable around him. I couldn't be myself, he made me nervous and I still don't know why. I'm not giving up on love, but I just have to give up on the fact that this Scorpio man is the one for me. I've read where some of you said that he usually comes back to you but you've also had relationships much longer than 4 weeks. If he does come back, it'll only be to hook up again and then HE will dump me just so he can have the last word. I was devastated after I broke it off with him. I almost went back and then I found this site and read what everyone had to say and realized that this is not how I want to live my life. If you're not a match, then move on...it's not worth the agony! I know its easier said than done...believe me! I miss him like crazy but everyday gets a little better. I have to drive past his work everyday and everyday I look for his truck and maybe a glimpse of him. Even his truck was sexy! I don't like it that he still has this affect on me, as a matter of fact it makes me very angry. And I'm sure he's moved on twofold but I keep reminding myself that it was a learning experience and I need to move on. It's kinda like you have to go through a bad relationship to recognize a good one! Good luck fellow Librans! Whattayasay we hook up with some Gemini's or Aquarius'? They are more of a match for us and lets leave those dark mysterious men alone.
I had been with Scorpio man for about 5 yrs but we must have split up about 3 times. He seemed a really nice guy at first but I didn't like it when he was trying to tell me what to do, and take over! Also I coudnt put up with the sarcasm which really hurt at times and also the mood swings as I am an easy going person and just wanted peace. Any little thing he would make a mountain out of a molehill and knew what strings to pull. It was like treading on eggshells cos I never knew what mood he would be in when arrived home. WHEN he was nice it was great but in the end it got me down so much having to put up with the moods,sometimes lasting 2wks and also the mind games and cold shoulder I felt it was time to go. Cos he hadnt spoke 4 a mth before I left I took it he didn't want me there anyway so I found a place to move. When iconfronted him and said "Its obvious you don't want me here any mor, I shall be moving". He replied "Idont want you to go" and turned completely cold o and me cos I was going. I cant understand, cos if you r in love with somebody the last thing you want to do is give them the cold shoulder all the time. I was hurt too many times! I
WOW! I am a Libra woman with a Scorpio man. I have read all the comments and must say I understand a lot more than I did about the guy I am dating. Most of you hit the nail on the head for me. How can the Scorpio guy be so good in bedroom then get dressed and be such a different person? They do you leave guessing alot.
Mine is definately a hard one to read. I think they are prone to depression also. Seems like you have to constantly lift them up. VERY emotional, almost girl like in some ways. Just saying..........
I am a Scorpio man and had a chance to date a Libra woman. No doubt she has a attractive personality but she camouflage herself. She always feel my love as if it was my jealousy. I always have a sincere feeling for her instead of knowing that she already had some relationship with other but I want to give her a chance to learn from her past deeds but she was not ready to accept that she has done anything wrong. Sex is one of the beauty of our relationship and she always love to have sex with me. We have a strong communication gap and she is not ready to accept my feeling s for her other than sex. Once she asked me to leave her which was a very difficult act for me but Scorpios have a quality that they have a strong decision power and never turn back after deciding no matter the thing is very dear to them. I kicked her ass out of my life and never seen her face again in my life. I strongly discourage Scorpio and Libra relationship at this forum.
To the broken hearted Librian that lost weight from the love of the Scorpio bite: Keep your head up, as you said- that was a valuable lesson. Reading so many comments about the experiences of the Libra woman and Scorpio man has made me very aware of possibilities. More than half of these comments lean towards an unhappy union and eventual break ups. I am a Lovely Libra woman and I am currently talking to a wonderful Scorpio man. He and I have been friends for more than a year and we finally have began talking as more. Unfortunately, he is overseas right now so we are very long distance. Yet we talk every day, sometimes more than once, even falling asleep with one another almost nightly. I adore him in every since of the phrase
I can only hope that do to our individual circumstances (we are both divorced and seeking companionship) that we are more compatible than not. I have learned to adapt to the Scorpio very well in the past few years, as my mother and closest friend are Scorpios- as well as a few other friends and associates). I have also learned the mentality and temperament of water-signs at whole. In general, they don?t mesh with the air sign category very well, although I have learned that what you feel for a person, coupled with where ya?ll are in life, topped by how willing you are to make it work- makes or breaks any relationship.
My adoring and far reaching Scorpio meets many of the characteristics that I have read here, he?s mysterious, secretive, doesn?t talk much about himself, he?s passionate, and straight forward. His aggressiveness scares me at times. I am very attracted to him because of his power (what he ?can? do) yet I am almost afraid of his aggressiveness (what he ?will? do). That might sound weird, but it?s very true. I have been attracted to him for so long that now that we have an opportunity to move past friendship, I can?t pass up the opportunity even due to unfavorable results. We have 6 more months until he returns to the states, and then??It?s show-time folks? ??but I am so excited until I am tickled pink. I am excited for each email, chat alert, and Skype call, so when the time comes for him to come home?wow! I am so very ready to experience the passion and tender love that each of you describe. I know 6 more months is a long time to wait for some one that I have only established friendship with, but my hunch is- He?s well worth it. Good luck All, on your ventures for true love.
I am a Libra women married to a Scorpio man for 11 years now & was with him 7 years prior to our marriage - this is both our second marriage, no kids together. He is not jealous what so ever - I am the jealous one in our relationship. The road has been rocky for sure, but the sex is great & still great - we are diffently a match made in heaven, atleast for me anyway. It's total compromise & as you mature you will find that with any relationship no matter how incaptible people say you are. I love my Scorpio man to pieces - til death do we part. I am 47 years old!
I am a Libra woman who has been in a serious relationship with a Scorpio man for almost 3 years. at first we started out the best of friends going everywhere doing everything with one another-totally inseparable. were both extremely attractive individuals so together we attract twice as much attention. It started off to good to be true and as a Libra woman we tend to state our emotions out loud verses wait patiently to be sure that what were feeling is real. theres no reason to hide our feelings. I would always say this is to good to be true what if something bad happens what if were not meant to be and it wasn't because I didn't want it to work but because I wanted it to work so badly. I guess eventually he started to get fed up with me saying these things cause he felt internally he knew he wanted to spend his life with me but never bluntly expressed it to me. after 6 months of dating I found out he was approacghing other woman with the same lines he used for me a and I was terribly heart broken and felt that everything was un-real ater that- he said it was for fun, no harm intended but its not funny when someone actually gets hurt I left him in the dust for a month he came back and proposed to me in front his family & mines. I said yes cause ive always wanted the idealistic family and a husband. but not long after that I found out he spent sometime with and ex because her family was in town and wanted to know how he was doing but didn't care too much cause it was at a time when we were both broken apart- so I strived to put it behind me even though he stated a number of times she was his first love; he never wanted to loose her yet he cheated on her numerous amounts of times and she left him. He always made it clear he really loved me and would never put anyone before me but there seemed to always be someone after me. whether it was us getting into a fight and him exchanging numbers or sleeping with someone just cause he could. I feel Scorpio men are good to you when your mean to them but when you give in they are complete assholes. they don't like to express themselves, you never know exactly what theyre doing or who theyre doing it with and theyll never admit it youll have to actually catch them in the act as far as texting , social networking or making them think you know something so that theyll confide. I feel like Scorpio Libra is a good combo if there is a really strong less spoken and empathetic Libra woman to much expressions scared the Scorpio male of and makes him feel to commited and he looses interest cause its not fun an will do lots of sneaky things behind your back . & if you ever do NYTHING to hurt them theyll seek revenge when you least expect it and theyll forgive you cause they know how they are and the things they do. im thinking about ending it because until I send this site I thought we were perfect yet were complete opposite of that its hard because weve been through a lot but its more bad than good memories plus were young and I will never date another Scorpio again!
I am a Libra woman, and I have dated 2 Scorpio creeps. Terrible, they're confusing, selfish, and compulsive liars. I never want another scorpio, they will definitely sting u!
Wow! So Im a Libra girl 17 dating a Scorpio Guy 19, and I always thought of us librans as being the MASTERS of seduction. You know creating the perfect environment,having all the softest material, all the most intoxicating scents, having the softest touch - all the lovely things we dream up or see in movies, we put to play with amazing skill. But my God was I trumped! My Scorpio guy was born for this stuff! It's like he invented the art of love making. It's so intense and overwhelming I cant believe it. So YES the sex is AMAZING!!! I must say I feel bad for all my fellow librans for all the drama that I've been reading about in all your comments. My relationship so far has been great though there were some times when I really had to be patient. We've been going out for just over a year now and I've learnt so much. I must agree with the fact that he has those beautiful eyes that pierce so deep into mine that it seems like he's staring at my bare soul! And yes he I s super mysterious and there are always things that I'll be trying to pry from him. But I really love him. He is exactly like me in every other sense. I LOVE doing extreme things that most people reserve for last on their bucket list. And so does he. We are adrenalin junkies and we just love doing the same stuff. He does get a little jealous because I have tonnes of friends that are also guys but I always give him a long promising look and tell him how much I love him. He took for EVER to even start really talking about his feelings and emotions. I had to constantly let him know that I'm in it till the end and that I'm loyal to my raw being. I went all in for him and after a while he followerd suit. Now he talks a lot more openly - but don't get me wrong there are things reserved somewhere in there. But I'm happy with what he shares, and I don't doubt his love because he bathes me in it constantly. We have learnt so much about each other and can both be so bluntly honest but that's how we like it. Honesty has been our lifesaver! I have learnt how to compromise with his mood swings and he's aware of my efforts and also makes his own efforts. He really does know me and how to tip my scales to that magical balance. We have learnt to just spit things out if there's something bothering us and it's dealt with quickly. When you peel back the layers, you find real emotions and some more mystery to keep you peeling. I just feel that the relationship is real and I LOVE it. After reading all these comments I'm a little worried because some things are so true in my case but not on such a serious scale. But I love my Scorpio so much and I'm so optimistic, I'd do anything to maintain what we have.
Libra on the cusp of Scorpio miss here :) Met my October Scorpio over a year ago. We didn't get along much at first. He showed interest in me but I blew him off like many other guys. Then he had an asshole attitude and we'd both make many smartass remarks to each other all the time. Anyways, somehow, we got close and started seeing eachother. He was so powerfully in love with me. He'd do anything for me. It's like he was in a trance with my beauty and get on his hands and knees to worship my feet lol. I was in a terrible 5 year relatiOnshop with a Gemini prior so being single felt too good to give uP. Of course I didn't appreciate this love from the Scorpio. Infact, it scared me. I never had anyone love me so intensely that I felt I could walk all over him. I ended up cheating on him with a pig Taurus who used me anyways. I broke the scorpios heart and felt no remorse because of how controlling over my free spirit he could be at times. Little did I know this would be the biggest mistake of my life. He said he forgave me but he never will. I don't blame him. So when I finally committed fully to him, he was seeing another girl at his work. He never even told me about her but 5 months later she contacted me after she found out that I was pregnant by him and told me they went on 2 casual dates and never had sex or even hugged. She showed me the text messages he'd send to her. But after 2 weeks of talking to her, he told her about me and that he loved me too much to go any further. I adore this about him. But it pissed me off he never planned on telling me about her. Honesty I can't get too mad because I did much worse. But we still get into terrible fights over our distrust. It's just that now there is a baby involved, I'd hope to god he wouldn't get his full revenge on me and meet someone to have sex with them. I trust that he won't but I also know if a Scorpio doesn't want to let you know about something, they are good at being secretive. We seem to be opposites of eachother. Different taste in music, thought, just so many things. But at the same time, we are the mirror image of each other in how we act and out life stories. Since I am on the scor
I'm a Libra lass who's been with a Scorpio man for about 3 years now, but things are going surprisingly well compared to some other women here. I know he's reserved, and I don't expect him to pour his feelings out to me. He gets annoyed sometimes when I go on about how I feel; but if I'm upset, he's there right away to console me. It's true he's also quite jealous, since I do have a lot of male friends and I am quite flirty. However, due to his job he meets loads of beautiful women everyday, but he remains strangely loyal to me. This does annoy me a bit, but we get through it. When we're together there's this amazing chemistry between us, and the intimacy is like nothing else. This relationship could be something wonderful: but it won't be effortless.
I am a Libra woman who fell in love with a Scorpio guy. After knowing him for about 5 years, we had never dated but I thought that we were very close to it. So on my bday when we got to hang out I asked him if he likes me the same way and later on when we were texting he brought back the subject and telling me that he also has strong feelings for me but he is done with being in relationships because he always gets his feelings hurt and I felt the same way. I had my heart broken on my 16th birthday but I had to move on
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